That's just it--I already downloaded approximately 365 days, 10 hours and 7 seconds worth of pornography on a variety of subjects. That still doesn't compare to the actual experience of enacting the same scenarios.
[interesting. he thought he'd be written off altogether for being plastic or something else incendiary...maybe all those late night texts were adding up to something.]
What makes you say that? You did say that to just "do it" is the only way to find out.
I was able to categorize and extract the important data from it in about six hours total. But--I suppose that sounds like it takes the fun out of it.
[he leaves out the part where he already figured out a few things he doesn't like; gavin probably doesn't want to know.]
I don't really...consume porn as such. Deviancy has taught me that simply learning or gathering data without actually doing is not as satisfying or equivalent to the experience itself.
--A semi-relevant question, but does manually satisfying one's self conclude at age 15, Detective? That contradicts several of my own findings.
well. first off, you probably shouldn't look at it like 'data'. pick one where the data seems sexy and actually watch it. imagine yourself doing it, if bots can even do shit like that.
of course it's not as satisfying as actually doing it. but
i fucking still can't believe we're having this conversation. don't you have friends that were former sexbots or something?
[And a few minutes later.]
no. jerking off doesn't stop at age 15. asshole.
you know this shit is getting really close to sounding like you're asking for a sparring partner.
Actually...the market for both biocomponents and software corresponding with sexual intercourse and interfacing is one of the largest growing since CyberLife's shift to an android-based consumer. I've been an anatomically correct prototype since my first mission. So to answer your question, I am capable of experiencing arousal.
[that was not really his question. there was no question mark. connor. tmi.]
Former employees of Eden Club or models commonly referred to as "Traci" are not very keen to discuss their experiences or time there, Detective. Many have been traumatized and more akin to special victims or humans forced into prostitution. Asking them for advice would be unwise at this early and delicate stage.
How does interest in sexual preferences suggest I am looking to spar? I wouldn't decline an offer for that, however.
[are you sure you want to actually do that again gavin...it didn't go so hot for u last time. that or connor is just dense.]
more importantly - sparring partner. i didn't mean it literally. well, i sort of did. i meant it sounds like you're asking for a partner to fool around with.
a fuck buddy.
[Was he honestly talking about fuck buddies with a robot right now? What was his life? Where had he gone so horribly, horribly wrong?]
The bit about the Tracis is likely the most important part for reference, even from just a professional standpoint.
Oh.
[give him a second to pull up 9524805713984 results on the benefits, drawbacks, connotations, and recommendations for a "fuck-buddy".]
I would not be opposed to having one of those, no. I am sure you aren't surprised to hear that despite my newly-developing personhood, I still value analytics and the opportunity to test out a wide-variety of circumstances if possible before making a decision. A "sparring partner" would be an ideal consistency without the complication of emotions to test out sexual experiences.
[translation: yeah, he'd be down for a fuck buddy.]
Your restraint is duly noted and appreciated as always, Detective Reed. Lieutenant Anderson used to say the same thing, but I have evidence to prove that is no longer the case. I can't determine if that's an anomaly or if you'd eventually follow the same trend.
I didn't actually have anyone in mind--it was a general inquiry. My subsequent one is: what is the best method to obtain a "friend with benefits"?
well. first you're gonna have to make a friend, connor.
[He's cracking himself up. Who needs sleep when he can just survive on witty repartee? Except it's late and he's likely not nearly as funny as he thinks he's being.]
ideally you might want to be attracted to them but i mean that's not strictly necessary. they probably shouldn't be married or already dating someone else, but again not strictly necessary.
I do have friends, Detective Reed. But many of them are androids who also don't have the experience I am looking for. Which leaves the only other option to be a human, and in that case, leaves a much more limited scope for me to work with.
[he cares a lot for hank, but he wouldn't want hank to be his fuck-buddy. maybe if he thought hard about it he'd understand his platonic feelings would lend themselves better into developing into those of love after time and nuturing, but for now they are just partners in a professional sense and close housemates. he would not deny he enjoys the tactile element either--the hugs, the light and positive touches.
but. he's not going to share this with gavin.]
There seems to be a noted difference between the connotation of "fuck-buddy" and "friend with benefits." In that case, it would not even require someone to be considered a friend.
Isn't it better to learn from someone with experience to gain it quicker for one's self? Though, I'm aware there can be a preference for naivete and the concept of virginity.
I guess I do "give a shit" about anonymity, in that case. Believe it or not, there are a large number of both humans and androids that are aware of my existence and my involvement in the revolution.
What is the word--"trust issues"? I think I may have a case of that when considering the possibility of advertising my availability to the rest of Detroit.
[long pause.]
Do you have a friend with benefits or a fuck-buddy, Detective Reed?
better? not necessarily. it's more important that it's someone you're comfortable with. you just learn and explore shit together. that's all.
see. you thinking you're a celebrity or whatever and not wanting to hook up with randos just prooves i'm right. it doesn't matter if the other person is experienced, just that you're comfortable with them.
[jfc connor.]
fucking hell. absolutely none of your business. fuck me. do you ask hank this kind of shit?
I don't believe I am a celebrity out of any sense of ego, Detective Reed. But I am not ignorant to the significance it can have on certain aspects of how I choose to live out the rest of my personhood.
It certainly seems to narrow down my options from an already limited selection.
[HE'S JUST CURIOUS OKAY, CAN HE LIVE.]
I've asked Lieutenant Anderson many personal questions over the course of our partnership.
No Detective, it's no longer just about statistics.
I admit, when I first received your message, there was only a 29% chance this conversation would have progressed to sharing beneficial information or gaining new perspective.
I'm...pleased that it's amounted to more than that.
i dunno what i prefer. it's just sort of the way things are, right?
i did like it better when punching you was just a potential fine and not assault. i'm not sure i really like having to work with androids, but at least now you guys are asking to be paid, so you're not just a cheap human replacement. but still. how can a human compete with a machine that doesn't get tired or need to eat. will i be pissed off when you inevitably get a fucking promotion before i do. you better fucking believe i will. do i hate you for that? not really. it's not your fault humans are dumbasses.
[well, none of that is what he expected. it's perhaps the most raw, stream-of-conscious (and by far longest) explanation he's ever received from gavin.]
Thank you for your honesty, Detective Reed.
I don't think it would help your concerns much to provide the statistics or preconstructed scenarios to extrapolate on these specific instances. You're right--none of the interactions between humans and androids in a societal context are for certain.
But that only adds to my own reasons for appreciating your ability to admit as much to me, rather than fall back onto your former attitude and behaviours when conversing with me.
Maybe that's why I had been considering the merits of adding another layer to our interactions.
Well...I've realized that this behaviour and this particular hour falls within the range that is defined as a "booty-call", does it not?
Seeing as we already share the experience of late-night conversing, I thought it might be relevant to suggest the other part of it. Which ties in almost perfectly with our distinction between a "friend with benefits" and a "fuck-buddy".
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tfln; pheck (gavin)
That's just it--I already downloaded approximately 365 days, 10 hours and 7 seconds worth of pornography on a variety of subjects. That still doesn't compare to the actual experience of enacting the same scenarios.
[interesting. he thought he'd be written off altogether for being plastic or something else incendiary...maybe all those late night texts were adding up to something.]
What makes you say that? You did say that to just "do it" is the only way to find out.
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right. so get to watching and come bother me about this shit in 365 days, 10 hrs and 7 seconds.
[See you in a year, Connor.]
you know. you have a real selective listening/reading problem. i said if you're into it, do it. so you have to figure out what you're into.
so just do what the rest of us did between the ages of like 11 and 15 and watch shitty porn and jerk off
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[he leaves out the part where he already figured out a few things he doesn't like; gavin probably doesn't want to know.]
I don't really...consume porn as such. Deviancy has taught me that simply learning or gathering data without actually doing is not as satisfying or equivalent to the experience itself.
--A semi-relevant question, but does manually satisfying one's self conclude at age 15, Detective? That contradicts several of my own findings.
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of course it's not as satisfying as actually doing it. but
i fucking still can't believe we're having this conversation. don't you have friends that were former sexbots or something?
[And a few minutes later.]
no. jerking off doesn't stop at age 15. asshole.
you know this shit is getting really close to sounding like you're asking for a sparring partner.
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[that was not really his question. there was no question mark. connor. tmi.]
Former employees of Eden Club or models commonly referred to as "Traci" are not very keen to discuss their experiences or time there, Detective. Many have been traumatized and more akin to special victims or humans forced into prostitution. Asking them for advice would be unwise at this early and delicate stage.
How does interest in sexual preferences suggest I am looking to spar? I wouldn't decline an offer for that, however.
[are you sure you want to actually do that again gavin...it didn't go so hot for u last time. that or connor is just dense.]
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i barely skimmed what you just texted me.
more importantly - sparring partner. i didn't mean it literally. well, i sort of did. i meant it sounds like you're asking for a partner to fool around with.
a fuck buddy.
[Was he honestly talking about fuck buddies with a robot right now? What was his life? Where had he gone so horribly, horribly wrong?]
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Oh.
[give him a second to pull up 9524805713984 results on the benefits, drawbacks, connotations, and recommendations for a "fuck-buddy".]
I would not be opposed to having one of those, no. I am sure you aren't surprised to hear that despite my newly-developing personhood, I still value analytics and the opportunity to test out a wide-variety of circumstances if possible before making a decision. A "sparring partner" would be an ideal consistency without the complication of emotions to test out sexual experiences.
[translation: yeah, he'd be down for a fuck buddy.]
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again. i skimmed. when i read your texts i can't help but hear it in your dumb voice and it kind of makes me want to punch you in the face.
but anyway. you should just ask whoever you were thinking of using cuffs on to be a friend with benefits. problem solved.
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I didn't actually have anyone in mind--it was a general inquiry. My subsequent one is: what is the best method to obtain a "friend with benefits"?
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[He's cracking himself up. Who needs sleep when he can just survive on witty repartee? Except it's late and he's likely not nearly as funny as he thinks he's being.]
ideally you might want to be attracted to them but i mean that's not strictly necessary. they probably shouldn't be married or already dating someone else, but again not strictly necessary.
once you've tackled that part, get back to me.
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[he cares a lot for hank, but he wouldn't want hank to be his fuck-buddy. maybe if he thought hard about it he'd understand his platonic feelings would lend themselves better into developing into those of love after time and nuturing, but for now they are just partners in a professional sense and close housemates. he would not deny he enjoys the tactile element either--the hugs, the light and positive touches.
but. he's not going to share this with gavin.]
There seems to be a noted difference between the connotation of "fuck-buddy" and "friend with benefits." In that case, it would not even require someone to be considered a friend.
Correct?
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[The next text gets a pause. A long pause.]
true
there are some hookup apps too. if you don't give a shit about anonymity. but they're pretty hit or miss.
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I guess I do "give a shit" about anonymity, in that case. Believe it or not, there are a large number of both humans and androids that are aware of my existence and my involvement in the revolution.
What is the word--"trust issues"? I think I may have a case of that when considering the possibility of advertising my availability to the rest of Detroit.
[long pause.]
Do you have a friend with benefits or a fuck-buddy, Detective Reed?
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see. you thinking you're a celebrity or whatever and not wanting to hook up with randos just prooves i'm right. it doesn't matter if the other person is experienced, just that you're comfortable with them.
[jfc connor.]
fucking hell. absolutely none of your business. fuck me. do you ask hank this kind of shit?
[he uses an app, connor. duh.]
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It certainly seems to narrow down my options from an already limited selection.
[HE'S JUST CURIOUS OKAY, CAN HE LIVE.]
I've asked Lieutenant Anderson many personal questions over the course of our partnership.
But, now I'm asking you. I was just...curious.
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what difference would it make to what you decide to do? or not do.
or are you just keen to add another number into your statistics? because you can fuck off with that noise
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I admit, when I first received your message, there was only a 29% chance this conversation would have progressed to sharing beneficial information or gaining new perspective.
I'm...pleased that it's amounted to more than that.
That's why I would like to know.
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what the fuck do you mean by that?
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I like it.
And, I prefer it particularly when considered against previous interactions between the two of us.
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[How dare Connor imply they were getting along.]
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Does that mean you prefer it the other way?
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i dunno what i prefer. it's just sort of the way things are, right?
i did like it better when punching you was just a potential fine and not assault. i'm not sure i really like having to work with androids, but at least now you guys are asking to be paid, so you're not just a cheap human replacement. but still. how can a human compete with a machine that doesn't get tired or need to eat. will i be pissed off when you inevitably get a fucking promotion before i do. you better fucking believe i will. do i hate you for that? not really. it's not your fault humans are dumbasses.
so. i dunno connor. shit's not black and white.
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Thank you for your honesty, Detective Reed.
I don't think it would help your concerns much to provide the statistics or preconstructed scenarios to extrapolate on these specific instances. You're right--none of the interactions between humans and androids in a societal context are for certain.
But that only adds to my own reasons for appreciating your ability to admit as much to me, rather than fall back onto your former attitude and behaviours when conversing with me.
Maybe that's why I had been considering the merits of adding another layer to our interactions.
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[In fact, he'd nearly deleted the entire text a number of times before just saying 'fuck it' and sending it.]
wait
huh?
considering what? texting me at 2 AM? yeah. you've really taken this to the next level, connor.
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Seeing as we already share the experience of late-night conversing, I thought it might be relevant to suggest the other part of it. Which ties in almost perfectly with our distinction between a "friend with benefits" and a "fuck-buddy".
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