[something about that phrasing....makes something just click. connor is a little awestruck if the interpretation is correct. he may not have entered elijah’s with an existential crisis, but he’s absolutely having one now. his brows are knit together, mouth a little slack as he determinedly picks out the words.]
Many humans still hold onto religious identities and ideology. The worship of a mythical deity who created them in his or her image.
Mr. Kamski, I don’t mean to overstep, and I don’t know if you’ll answer, but—did you intend to replicate humanity in your own hands? To be lauded for your extraordinary intelligence and ingenuity? Is deviancy your idea of an android surpassing its existence?
[ that's his goal, making robots question their humanity since...whenever he decided he wanted to create a sentient species. ]
what an incredible question, connor. now, what kind of person would i be if i admitted to something like that?
[ you would be elijah kamski ]
it is fascinating to imagine though, isn't it? deviancy allows androids to truly become their own people; to think for themselves, make mistakes, develop creativity if such a thing were to have come about on purpose -- the design of a single man who saw the possibility and decided to swap a 0 with a 1...
it would be the greatest scientific development in the history of mankind second only to the creation of androids themselves, obviously. i'd only be upstaging myself.
[ he never said yes or no but does he really have to ]
Edited (changed the spacing a bit oops) 2018-07-16 22:22 (UTC)
[that would be the first time connor is certain he doesn’t need an answer. the realization of it all hits him and builds what he identifies as admiration. all of this was by elijah’s design after all. connor keeps his level of reverence simple, still trying to absorb all of it he remembers a headline he’d read some weeks ago, scanning it in passing during one of his investigations.]
You really are the man of the century, Mr. Kamski.
[ Ah, yes. That does feel good, doesn't it? Recognition. Reverence. There was never a doubt he had a God complex. ]
there's no need to thank me, connor you did all the work yourselves i merely created the possibility, the outcome was never a given where you are now is all thanks your own efforts
i hoped it wouldn't come to that, but i'm glad you found them useful
[ that's so pure, connor. you poor baby. ]
it's alright for you to say that it makes you anxious deviants don't only simulate feelings. you have them.
uncertainty about the future and wondering whether things could have been different is perfectly normal it's also entirely illogical, but that's the beauty of personhood, isn't it?
[it's still a novelty to realize that--and even more to have it validated by elijah's assurance that it isn't just an imitation anymore. but it's like he said before: experience can't be learned. he's not really going to understand what things feel like until he has his own personal references.]
I think it would be more illogical to tell you I sometimes...
[well, he's come this far. should he be apprehensive to keep going? maybe it's also illogical of him to have the sudden thought that if elijah likes to play god so much...would he ever think about giving cyberlife the idea to take this all away? just because he can?]
I did say it was irrational. But history would also indicate that most revolutions weren’t won overnight. We’ve made progress, and there are still some who resent that.
I’m....content, more content than fearful. And ready to experience with my eyes open, without ulterior motive.
[good luck with no one else having one tho connor.]
Is there...anyone else who knows how you really feel about your creations?
[its probably rude to ask the more direct question like is that why u got fired elijah huh.]
Markus was your gift to Carl Manfred, after all. I never shared that detail with Lieutenant Anderson during my investigation, even though I was able to determine it through analysis.
[mind ur business connor but it’s a little late for that.]
Is she a deviant, sir?
[if yes, it speaks to something in kamski’s character that she chooses to stay. his pool setup is still pretty weird but threesomes aren’t on his list of things to figure out asap.]
You suspected she wasn’t in any real danger. That’s much less cold than I initially interpreted. Lieutenant Anderson thought it was too callous of a game to play, now that he supports our cause.
[there is probably no convincing hank that kamski isn’t a bit of a creep though, oop.]
you'll have to ask chloe that's not my secret to tell
[ hmmMMMmmMMmm good old cryptic bullshit, there he is ]
it was always a possibility but even if you'd shot her, i have all the necessary equipment needed to back-up and reupload her memories into a new body she was never in any danger
Then, I think I'd like the chance, if it's alright with you. To see you again, that is. Both of you played a crucial part to my decision and...
[and they have a bond now okay!!! gosh.]
But if I hadn't overcome my programming, would you have tried to push for a different outcome? Orchestrated something else?
[deep down he knows where the large majority of his decision came from--back to lieutenant anderson's opinion, and a growing sense of empathy to traumatized androids. from that mindset it would be hard to construct a scenario in which he'd wanted to have shot chloe, even with the promise of what elijah dangled in front of him. it's easier to see that now, of course. hindsight is twenty-twenty, after all.]
[ of course he would, he thinks connor's fascinating. ]
i think i'll leave the answer to that question to your imagination theorizing alternate outcomes for past events is a very human activity i wouldn't want to take that chance away from you
[ because we all know the answer and it's not as cute as connor wants to hear, so kamski won't totally shatter his dreams. and also he's a cryptic asshole, so why answer when he can just ask more questions? ]
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Many humans still hold onto religious identities and ideology. The worship of a mythical deity who created them in his or her image.
Mr. Kamski, I don’t mean to overstep, and I don’t know if you’ll answer, but—did you intend to replicate humanity in your own hands? To be lauded for your extraordinary intelligence and ingenuity? Is deviancy your idea of an android surpassing its existence?
[take him 2 church elijah.]
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what an incredible question, connor.
now, what kind of person would i be if i admitted to something like that?
[ you would be elijah kamski ]
it is fascinating to imagine though, isn't it?
deviancy allows androids to truly become their own people; to think for themselves, make mistakes, develop creativity
if such a thing were to have come about on purpose -- the design of a single man who saw the possibility and decided to swap a 0 with a 1...
it would be the greatest scientific development in the history of mankind
second only to the creation of androids themselves, obviously. i'd only be upstaging myself.
[ he never said yes or no but does he really have to ]
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You really are the man of the century, Mr. Kamski.
A mere thank you seems...trite.
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there's no need to thank me, connor
you did all the work yourselves
i merely created the possibility, the outcome was never a given
where you are now is all thanks your own efforts
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[connor is a little lamb who thinks this means they’re bonding.]
Sometimes....thinking about what could have happened otherwise emulates what humans must consider “anxiety”.
[androids don’t sleep per se, but nightmare would be an apt comparison.]
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[ that's so pure, connor. you poor baby. ]
it's alright for you to say that it makes you anxious
deviants don't only simulate feelings. you have them.
uncertainty about the future and wondering whether things could have been different is perfectly normal
it's also entirely illogical, but that's the beauty of personhood, isn't it?
[ he's just so proud of his children ]
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I think it would be more illogical to tell you I sometimes...
[well, he's come this far. should he be apprehensive to keep going? maybe it's also illogical of him to have the sudden thought that if elijah likes to play god so much...would he ever think about giving cyberlife the idea to take this all away? just because he can?]
Sometimes I worry it could still be taken away.
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taken away? are you worried cyberlife still holds claim over you?
[ now that is concerning. it defeats the point of making his androids free if cyberlife can manhandle them. man, he hates the people in charge. ]
it’s ya man’s birthday today happy bday elijah
I’m....content, more content than fearful. And ready to experience with my eyes open, without ulterior motive.
[good luck with no one else having one tho connor.]
🎂 sixteen years old hurray
true. but cyberlife is the largest company in the world. it won't be easy, but they sell more than just androids
that's good
it makes me glad to hear you say that, connor
that's all i could ever want for you
to give you life
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Is there...anyone else who knows how you really feel about your creations?
[its probably rude to ask the more direct question like is that why u got fired elijah huh.]
Markus was your gift to Carl Manfred, after all. I never shared that detail with Lieutenant Anderson during my investigation, even though I was able to determine it through analysis.
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the rest of the world isn't my concern
[ that's definitely why he got fired lbr ]
did you now?
i knew you were more than a machine when i met you, connor
[ huh yeah what a coincidence that markus turned out to be the leader of the android revolution huh??? what a thing ]
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[mind ur business connor but it’s a little late for that.]
Is she a deviant, sir?
[if yes, it speaks to something in kamski’s character that she chooses to stay. his pool setup is still pretty weird but threesomes aren’t on his list of things to figure out asap.]
You suspected she wasn’t in any real danger. That’s much less cold than I initially interpreted. Lieutenant Anderson thought it was too callous of a game to play, now that he supports our cause.
[there is probably no convincing hank that kamski isn’t a bit of a creep though, oop.]
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that's not my secret to tell
[ hmmMMMmmMMmm good old cryptic bullshit, there he is ]
it was always a possibility
but even if you'd shot her, i have all the necessary equipment needed to back-up and reupload her memories into a new body
she was never in any danger
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Do you think she’d really tell me?
[that and connor can’t just invite himself over he has manners!!]
I know it was the right choice, but I’m glad I didn’t waste any more of your valuable time.
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she might
it's her choice, not mine
[ I mean he's a cop?? He can do that ]
you could never waste my time, connor
a negative outcome is still an outcome
it would just mean i'd have to go back to the drawing board, so to speak
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[and they have a bond now okay!!! gosh.]
But if I hadn't overcome my programming, would you have tried to push for a different outcome? Orchestrated something else?
[deep down he knows where the large majority of his decision came from--back to lieutenant anderson's opinion, and a growing sense of empathy to traumatized androids. from that mindset it would be hard to construct a scenario in which he'd wanted to have shot chloe, even with the promise of what elijah dangled in front of him. it's easier to see that now, of course. hindsight is twenty-twenty, after all.]
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you're welcome any time
[ of course he would, he thinks connor's fascinating. ]
i think i'll leave the answer to that question to your imagination
theorizing alternate outcomes for past events is a very human activity
i wouldn't want to take that chance away from you
[ because we all know the answer and it's not as cute as connor wants to hear, so kamski won't totally shatter his dreams. and also he's a cryptic asshole, so why answer when he can just ask more questions? ]